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Some Things Never Change

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{{Use British English|date=December 2012}}
{{Use dmy dates|date=May 2021}}
{{Infobox album
| name = Some Things Never Change
| type = studio
| artist = [[Supertramp]]
| cover = Supertramp - Some Things Never Change.jpg
| alt =
| released = 24 March 1997
| recorded = 1996
| studio =
*[[Ocean Way Recording|Ocean Way]], Hollywood
*The Backyard, Encino
| genre = [[Blues rock]], [[progressive rock]]
| length = 65:36 (11-track version) <br/> 70:03 (12-track version)
| label = [[EMI Records|EMI]]<br />Oxygen (US)
| producer = [[Jack Douglas (record producer)|Jack Douglas]], [[Fred Mandel]]
| prev_title = [[The Very Best of Supertramp 2]]
| prev_year = 1992
| next_title = [[It Was the Best of Times]]
| next_year = 1999
| misc = {{Singles
| name = Some Things Never Change
| type = studio
| single1 = [[You Win, I Lose]]
| single1date = February 1997<ref>{{cite web|url=https://dutchcharts.nl/showitem.asp?interpret=Supertramp&titel=You+Win%2C+I+Lose&cat=s|title=Supertramp singles}}</ref>
| single2 = Listen to Me Please
| single2date = April 1997<ref>{{cite web|url=https://dutchcharts.nl/showitem.asp?interpret=Supertramp&titel=Listen+To+Me+Please&cat=s|title=Supertramp singles}}</ref>
| single3 = Sooner or Later
| single3date = 1997 (NL)
}}
}}

'''''Some Things Never Change''''' is the tenth album by the British [[rock music|rock]] band [[Supertramp]], released in March 1997.

==Overview==
''Some Things Never Change'' represented a deliberate return to the band's earlier sound (before ''[[Free as a Bird (album)|Free as a Bird]]''), using more organic recording techniques than on their previous studio album.<ref name="progworld"/> [[John Helliwell]] recounted that "we recorded the album in a way that Supertramp never had and that was by all going into the studio together and doing it as a much more live thing."<ref>Overall, Rick (22 July 1997). {{usurped|1=[https://archive.today/20120718072921/http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/S/Supertramp/1997/07/22/750192.html Summer Tramp]}}, [[Jam! Music]].</ref>

The album features the single "[[You Win, I Lose]]", which was a minor hit in Germany and also received considerable airplay in Canada.<ref>Stevenson, Jane (25 July 1997). {{usurped|1=[https://archive.today/20120710201420/http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/S/Supertramp/1997/07/25/750191.html Supertramp Reunion Was Logical Thing to Do]}}, [[Jam! Music]].</ref> Two more singles were released commercially: "Listen To Me Please"<ref>{{Cite web|title=Supertramp - Listen To Me Please|url=https://www.discogs.com/master/445262-Supertramp-Listen-To-Me-Please|access-date=2021-11-03|website=Discogs|language=en}}</ref> and "Sooner or Later".<ref>{{Cite web|title=Supertramp - Sooner Or Later|url=https://www.discogs.com/master/547377-Supertramp-Sooner-Or-Later|access-date=2021-11-03|website=Discogs|language=en}}</ref>

The song "Live to Love You" (which was also released as a promo single<ref>{{Citation|title=Supertramp – Live To Love You (1997, CD)|url=https://www.discogs.com/release/5018800-Supertramp-Live-To-Love-You|language=en|access-date=2021-11-03}}</ref>) features both the 'tackled' sound from the Coleco [[Electronic Quarterback]] handheld electronic game, as well as the [[Trouble (board game)|Trouble]] "Pop-o-matic bubble" sounds from their 1979 hit "[[The Logical Song]]".

==Cover art==
Rick Davies explained the concept behind the album cover: "It's something to tie in with the title. In England people have tea at four o'clock and it doesn't matter where they are or what sort of social plane they're on, they will have that tea."<ref name="progworld">Bollenberg, John "Bobo" (26 June 2000). [http://www.progressiveworld.net/html/modules.php?name=Interviews&rop=showcontent&id=231 Interview with Rick Davies, John Helliwell, Jack Douglass, and Georges Ohayon], ProgressiveWorld.net.</ref>

==Reception==
{{Album ratings
| rev1 = [[AllMusic]]
| rev1Score = {{Rating|2|5}}<ref name="allmusic">{{AllMusic|class=album|id=r261083/review}}</ref>
| rev2 = ''[[Encyclopedia of Popular Music]]''
| rev2Score = {{Rating|3|5}}<ref>{{cite book|last=Larkin|first=Colin|author-link=Colin Larkin (writer)|year=2006|title=Encyclopedia of Popular Music|page=857|volume=7|publisher=[[Oxford University Press]]|edition=4th|isbn=0195313739|title-link=Encyclopedia of Popular Music}}</ref>
| rev3 = ''[[The Rolling Stone Album Guide]]''
| rev3Score = {{Rating|1|5}}<ref>{{cite book|author=Sheffield, Rob|editor1-first=Nathan|editor1-last=Brackett|editor1-link=Nathan Brackett|editor2-first=Christian|editor2-last=Hoard|title=The New Rolling Stone Album Guide|publisher=Simon & Schuster|edition=4th|year=2004|isbn=0-7432-0169-8|page=[https://archive.org/details/newrollingstonea00brac/page/797 797]|display-authors=etal|author-link=Rob Sheffield|title-link=The Rolling Stone Album Guide}}</ref>
}}
[[AllMusic]] commented that the album retains the same style and strong instrumental interplay from the band's glory years, but lacks the "ingratiatingly catchy melodies" of that era, making it of strong interest to the band's fans but much less to casual listeners.<ref name="allmusic"/>

==Track listing==
All songs written and sung by Rick Davies except where noted.
{{Tracklist
| extra_column = Lead vocals
| title1 = It's a Hard World
| length1 = 9:46
| title2 = [[You Win, I Lose]]
| length2 = 4:31
| title3 = Get Your Act Together
| length3 = 4:49
| title4 = Live to Love You
| length4 = 5:18
| title5 = Some Things Never Change
| length5 = 6:26
| title6 = Listen to Me Please
| extra6 = Davies and Hart
| length6 = 4:46
| title7 = Sooner or Later
| writer7 = Davies and Mark Hart
| extra7 = Mark Hart
| length7 = 6:50
| title8 = Help Me Down That Road
| length8 = 4:36
| title9 = And the Light
| length9 = 4:40
| title10 = Give Me a Chance
| extra10 = Hart
| writer10 = Davies and Hart
| length10 = 4:24
| title11 = C'est What?
| length11 = 8:17
| title12 = Where There's a Will
| length12 = 5:36
| total_length = 70:03
}}

"Give Me a Chance" was not included on all editions of the album.<ref>{{Citation|title=Supertramp – Some Things Never Change (1997, CD)|url=https://www.discogs.com/release/6698893-Supertramp-Some-Things-Never-Change|language=en|access-date=2021-11-03}}</ref>
<ref>{{Citation|title=Supertramp – Some Things Never Change (CD)|url=https://www.discogs.com/release/10405835-Supertramp-Some-Things-Never-Change|language=en|access-date=2021-11-03}}</ref>
<ref>{{Citation|title=Supertramp – Some Things Never Change (1997, CD)|url=https://www.discogs.com/release/3328855-Supertramp-Some-Things-Never-Change|language=en|access-date=2021-11-03}}</ref>

==Personnel==
;Supertramp
*[[Rick Davies]] – keyboards, vocals
*[[Mark Hart]] – guitars, keyboards, vocals
*[[John Helliwell]] – saxophones, woodwinds
*[[Cliff Hugo]] – bass
*[[Bob Siebenberg]] – drums (except on "And The Light")
*Lee Thornburg – [[trombones]], trumpets, background vocals
*[[Carl Verheyen]] – guitars
*Tom Walsh – percussion (all tracks); drums on "And The Light"

'''Additional personnel'''
*Bob Danziger – [[Kalimbas]]
*[[Karen Lawrence (singer-songwriter)|Karen Lawrence]] – background vocals
*Kim Nail – background vocals
*[[Fred Mandel]] – guitars on "And The Light" ''(uncredited as a musician on the cover)''<ref>{{Cite web |title=Fred Mandel en "The Logical Web" (Noviembre 2012) |url=https://www.thelogicalweb.com/mas-contenidos/the-logical-web/entrevistas-en-exclusiva/1294-fred-mandel-en-the-logical-web-noviembre-2012.html |access-date=2023-02-18 |website=www.thelogicalweb.com}}</ref>

===Production===
*Producers: Jack Douglas, Fred Mandel
*Executive producer: Rick Davies
*Engineers: Ian Gardiner, Jay Messina
*Assistant engineers: Ian Gardiner, Mike Scotella
*Mixing assistant: Roy Clark, Brian Hargrove
*Mastering: Bob Ludwig
*Creative director: Richard Frankel
*Cover art: Dimo Safari
*Portraits: Dennis Keeley

==Charts==
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===Weekly charts===
{| class="wikitable plainrowheaders sortable" style="text-align:center;"
|-
!Chart (1997)
!Position
|-
{{album chart|Austria|5|artist=Supertramp|album=Some Things Never Change|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Wallonia|9|artist=Supertramp|album=Some Things Never Change|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Canada|44|chartid=3257|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Netherlands|12|artist=Supertramp|album=Some Things Never Change|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|France|2|artist=Supertramp|album=Some Things Never Change|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Germany|3|artist=Supertramp|album=Some Things Never Change|id=2500|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Hungary|23|year=1997|week=21|rowheader=true|access-date=January 5, 2025}}
|-
!scope="row"|Italian Albums (''[[Musica e dischi]]'')<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.musicaedischi.it/classifiche_archivio.php|title=Classifiche|work=[[Musica e dischi]]|language=it|access-date=January 5, 2025}} Set "Tipo" on "Album". Then, in the "Titolo" field, search "Supertramp".</ref>
| style="text-align:center;"|21
|-
{{album chart|Norway|19|artist=Supertramp|album=Some Things Never Change|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
!scope="row"|Spanish Albums ([[Spanish Albums Chart|AFYVE]])<ref>{{cite book |last=Salaverri|first=Fernando|title=Sólo éxitos: año a año, 1959–2002|edition=1st |date=September 2005|publisher=Fundación Autor-SGAE|location=Spain|isbn=84-8048-639-2}}</ref>
|8
|-
{{album chart|Switzerland|2|artist=Supertramp|album=Some Things Never Change|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|UK2|74|date=19970427|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|}
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===Year-end charts===
{| class="wikitable plainrowheaders sortable" style="text-align:center;"
|-
!Chart (1997)
!Position
|-
!scope="row"|Belgian Albums Chart ([[Ultratop]] Wallonia)<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.ultratop.be/fr/annual.asp?year=1995&cat=a |title=Rapports annuels 1997|language=French |work=[[Ultratop]] |publisher=Hung Medien |accessdate=1 May 2013}}</ref>
|90
|-
!scope="row"|French Albums ([[SNEP]])<ref name="frayearend">{{cite web|url=http://www.infodisc.fr/B-CD_1997.php|title=Les Albums (CD) de 1997 par InfoDisc|language=French|format=PHP|publisher=infodisc.fr|access-date=1 May 2013|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120209200829/http://www.infodisc.fr/B-CD_1997.php|archive-date=9 February 2012}}</ref>
|46
|-
!scope="row"|German Albums ([[GfK Entertainment Charts]])<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.offiziellecharts.de/charts/album-jahr/for-date-1997 |title=Top 100 Album-Jahrescharts|language=German |publisher=[[GfK Entertainment]]|accessdate=8 September 2016}}</ref>
|46
|-
!scope="row"|Swiss Albums ([[Schweizer Hitparade]])<ref name="SWIYearend">{{cite web |url=http://hitparade.ch/year.asp?key=1997|title=Hitparade.ch - Schweizer Jahreshitparade 1997 |language=Swedish|format=ASP|work= Swiss Music Charts|publisher=Hung Medien |accessdate=1 May 2013}}</ref>
|49
|-
|}
{{col-end}}

==Certifications and sales==
{{Certification Table Top}}
{{Certification Table Entry|region=France|type=album|artist=Supertramp|title=Some Things Never Change|award=Gold|number=2|relyear=1997|certyear=1997|accessdate=1 June 2012|source=infodisc}}
{{Certification Table Entry|region=Germany|type=album|artist=Supertramp|title=Some Things Never Change|award=Gold|relyear=1997|accessdate=1 June 2012}}
{{certification Table Entry|artist=Supertramp|title=Some Things Never Change|type=album|relyear=1997|certyear=1997|region=Spain|award=Gold|certref=<ref name="Spanish certifications 1995-1999">{{cite web|url=http://www.mediafire.com/view/pd758fesp2w7i7f|title=Solo Exitos 1959–2002 Ano A Ano: Certificados > 1995–1999|publisher=Iberautor Promociones Culturales|isbn=84-8048-639-2}}</ref>}}
{{Certification Table Entry|region=Switzerland|type=album|artist=Supertramp|title=Some Things Never Change|award=Platinum|relyear=1997|accessdate=1 June 2012}}
{{Certification Table Summary}}
{{Certification Table Entry|region=Worldwide|type=album|artist=Supertramp|title=Some Things Never Change|nocert=true|relyear=1997|salesamount=900,000|salesref=<ref>{{cite magazine|url=https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/90s/1998/MM-1998-01-24.pdf|title=French exporters mind their language|magazine=[[Music & Media]]|first=Remi|last=Bouton|page=3|date=24 January 1998|accessdate=17 March 2022}}</ref>}}
{{Certification Table Bottom}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

{{Supertramp}}

{{Authority control}}

[[Category:1997 albums]]
[[Category:EMI Records albums]]
[[Category:Supertramp albums]]
[[Category:Albums produced by Jack Douglas (record producer)]]

Slow Motion (Supertramp album)

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{{Use British English|date=December 2012}}
{{Use dmy dates|date=May 2021}}
{{Infobox album
| name = Slow Motion
| type = Album
| artist = [[Supertramp]]
| cover = Supertramp - Slow Motion.jpg
| alt =
| released = 23 April 2002
| recorded =
| venue =
| studio = Sonora Recorders (Los Angeles, CA) <br> The Backyard Studios (Hampton Bays, NY)
| genre = [[Progressive rock]]
| length = 50:07
| label = [[EMI Records|EMI]]<br />Silver Cab ([[United States|U.S.]]/Canada)
| producer = [[Rick Davies]], [[Mark Hart]], Jay Messina
| prev_title = [[Is Everybody Listening?]]
| prev_year = 2001
| next_title = [[Retrospectacle – The Supertramp Anthology]]
| next_year = 2005
}}

'''''Slow Motion''''' is the eleventh and final [[studio album]] by the British [[rock music|rock]] band [[Supertramp]], released in April 2002.

==Overview==
In North America, ''Slow Motion'' was only available via mail-order from the band's website, released on their own label.

The song "Goldrush" was actually written in the early 1970s under the first Supertramp line-up, by original guitarist [[Richard Palmer-James]], and was used as the opening number in all their shows prior to ''[[Crime of the Century (album)|Crime of the Century]]''.<ref name="Melhuish">{{Cite book|last=Melhuish|first=Martin|title=The Supertramp Book|place=Toronto, Canada|publisher=Omnibus Press|year=1986|isbn=0-9691272-2-7|page=101}}</ref> The band had tried to record it on several previous occasions, but had never before been able to recreate it in the studio to their satisfaction.<ref name="Melhuish"/> While the album credits the song to Davies and Palmer-James only, [[Roger Hodgson]] supposedly co-wrote it.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Breakfast In Spain - Roger Hodgson and Supertramp website - JOHN HELLIWELL Interview, April 2003|url=https://mail.breakfastinspain.com/index.php/interviews/95-john-helliwell-interview-april-2003|access-date=2021-11-06|website=mail.breakfastinspain.com}}</ref>

==Reception==
{{Album ratings
| rev1 = [[AllMusic]]
| rev1Score = {{Rating|2.5|5}}<ref name="allmusic">{{AllMusic|class=album|id=r586504/review}}</ref>
| rev2 = ''[[The Rolling Stone Album Guide]]''
| rev2Score = {{Rating|1|5}}<ref>{{cite book|author=Sheffield, Rob|editor1-first=Nathan|editor1-last=Brackett|editor1-link=Nathan Brackett|editor2-first=Christian|editor2-last=Hoard|title=The New Rolling Stone Album Guide|publisher=Simon & Schuster|edition=4th|year=2004|isbn=0-7432-0169-8|page=[https://archive.org/details/newrollingstonea00brac/page/797 797]|display-authors=etal|author-link=Rob Sheffield|title-link=The Rolling Stone Album Guide}}</ref>
}}
[[AllMusic]] praised the songs and diversity in styles, but criticized the production and runtime.<ref name="allmusic"/>

==Track listing==
All songs written by [[Rick Davies]], except where noted.

#"Slow Motion" – 3:50
#"Little By Little" – 4:30
#"Broken Hearted" – 4:28
#"Over You" – 5:06
#"Tenth Avenue Breakdown" – 8:57
#"A Sting in the Tail" – 5:17
#"Bee in Your Bonnet" – 6:27
#"Goldrush" (Davies, [[Richard Palmer-James]]) – 3:06
#"Dead Man's Blues" – 8:26

==Personnel==
;Supertramp
*[[Rick Davies]] – keyboards, lead vocals, harmonica
*[[John Helliwell]] – saxophone, woodwinds
*Lee Thornburg – trumpet, backing vocals, trombone
*[[Carl Verheyen]] – guitars
*[[Mark Hart]] – keyboards, backing vocals, guitars
*[[Cliff Hugo]] – bass
*[[Bob Siebenberg]] – drums
*Jesse Siebenberg – percussion, backing vocals

===Production===
*Producers: Rick Davies, Mark Hart, Jay Messina
*Engineer: Jay Messina
*Mastering: Greg Calbi
*Pro-tools: Seth McClain
*Photography: Jean Ber, Richard Frankel

==Charts==
{{col-begin}}
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===Weekly charts===
{| class="wikitable plainrowheaders sortable" style="text-align:center;"
|-
!Chart (2002)
!Position
|-
{{album chart|Austria|18|artist=Supertramp|album=Slow Motion|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Wallonia|31|artist=Supertramp|album=Slow Motion|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Netherlands|83|artist=Supertramp|album=Slow Motion|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|France|8|artist=Supertramp|album=Slow Motion|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Germany|17|artist=Supertramp|album=Slow Motion|id=4018|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
{{album chart|Italy|46|artist=Supertramp|album=Slow Motion|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|-
!scope="row"|Spanish Albums ([[Spanish Albums Chart|AFYVE]])<ref>{{cite book |last=Salaverri|first=Fernando|title=Sólo éxitos: año a año, 1959–2002|edition=1st |date=September 2005|publisher=Fundación Autor-SGAE|location=Spain|isbn=84-8048-639-2}}</ref>
|34
|-
{{album chart|Switzerland|6|artist=Supertramp|album=Slow Motion|rowheader=true|accessdate=January 5, 2025}}
|}
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===Year-end charts===
{| class="wikitable plainrowheaders sortable" style="text-align:center;"
|-
!Chart (2002)
!Position
|-
!scope="row"|French Albums ([[SNEP]])<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-259376-Classements-Annuels.html?year=2002&type=2 |title=Classement Albums - année 2002 |work=Syndicat National de l'Édition Phonographique |access-date=1 February 2014 |language=French |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110909035309/http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-259376-Classements-Annuels.html?year=2002 |archive-date=9 September 2011 }}</ref>
|118
|-
!scope="row"|Swiss Albums ([[Schweizer Hitparade]])<ref name="SWIYearend">{{cite web |url=http://hitparade.ch/year.asp?key=2002|title=Hitparade.ch - Schweizer Jahreshitparade 2002 |language=Swedish|format=ASP|work= Swiss Music Charts|publisher=Hung Medien |access-date=1 May 2013}}</ref>
|88
|-
|}
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==Certifications==
{{Certification Table Top}}
{{Certification Table Entry|region=France|type=album|artist=Supertramp|title=Slow Motion|award=Gold|relyear=2002|certyear=2002|accessdate=1 June 2012|source=infodisc}}
{{Certification Table Entry|region=Switzerland|type=album|artist=Supertramp|title=Slow Motion|award=Gold|relyear=2002|accessdate=1 June 2012}}
{{Certification Table Bottom}}

==References==
{{Reflist}}

{{Supertramp}}

{{Authority control}}

[[Category:Supertramp albums]]
[[Category:2002 albums]]
[[Category:Albums produced by Rick Davies]]
[[Category:EMI Records albums]]