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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. There was a strong suggestion in the comments to move the article to a clearer title. Joyous 23:10, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)

Possible crisis in Western publishing

Original research? 172.172.35.229 22:03, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • Strong keep. Even without research on Google I know many facts thqt back that article. I immagine we have a great stub there. Gtabary 22:48, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Tentative keep. There is a factual basis for an article here. I don't know whether this is the best place for it, though. It might be better placed as a subsection of publishing or mass media. Shimeru 23:14, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • "keep". It is not original research, as references show. Mikkalai 00:16, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, has potential for expansion. Megan1967 01:16, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Legitimate topic. (Would that I could similarly vote keep for Wordsworth in Harvard Square, and the Avenue Victor Hugo Bookstore in Boston). It's gotta be moved somewhere though, that article title is awful. "Consolidation of the U. S. publishing industry?" Nope... "Decline of independent booksellers in the U. S.?" Nope... Dpbsmith (talk) 02:40, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Move to some other title. For the love of Mike, this is a bad, bad, bad title. There is a crush in publishing, as large houses are bought by larger multinationals and catalogs are ripped apart and even prestigious academic presses that never noticed profits and losses begin imitating the trades, but, of course, that's not what this article is talking about! How absurd. At the same time, retailing has changed, although, frankly, what has really happened is that the mall stores that killed the neighborhood shops are getting killed by big chains and the Internet. The funky used shop is actually doing well, just as the used record shop hasn't been hurt. How about Trends in retail books? Geogre 04:16, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, but yes, move to a better title. "Publishing in the modern world"? James F. (talk) 05:08, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Merge with publishing. -Cmprince 05:42, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete or merge with publishing or find a title that makes any sense. Ambi 05:44, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Merge with concentration of media ownership, no redirect. Gazpacho 06:38, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, agree that a better suited title is in order. —RaD Man (talk) 11:27, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • I vote keep, of course, as I created and primarily edited this stub (not yet a full article, which it could easily be - as voters might have seen, there are at least three book length works about it.) Have to vote against merges for the latter reason. Title could do with a change, but it is NOT just about American media ownership (I'm overly sicked and tired of Americentrism on Wikipedia) - it's about Western publishing in general; the "crisis" is not widely accepted as being one - intellectuals complain, businessmen feel justified (obviously) - hence "possible", but suggestions welcome. -- Simonides 20:08, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Hi Simonides. While there may be a lot of works written about it, that doesn't mean it can't be part of the publishing article. While it's not just an American issue, neither is it just a Western one. I merged Crisis into publishing to see what it would look like. Do you (or the rest of you) find the current version agreeable? -Cmprince 21:02, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Merge with Publishing and delete. No reason for there to be an article on a "possible" crisis in publishing, separate from the article on publishing. --BM 22:37, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Marginal keep. VfD is not necessary for merging/redirection. GRider\talk 22:40, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Certainly keep the content. Merge with Publishing makes sense to me. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:57, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

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